ScrollBarVisibility "Always" is not consistent.

[PrestigiousF]

Description

I have my vertical scrollbar set to "Always". When the page is loaded, the scrollbar is there. Only AFTER I scroll in the scrollview, the scrollbar is visible, but then disappears when idle.

Steps to Reproduce

<ScrollView HeightRequest="130"
VerticalScrollBarVisibility="Always">
        <Label Text="{Binding Description}"
        Margin="0,0,0,16"/>
</ScrollView>

Link to public reproduction project repository

N/A

Version with bug

6.0.312

Last version that worked well

Unknown/Other

Affected platforms

Android, I was not able test on other platforms

Affected platform versions

Android 12

Did you find any workaround?

No response

Relevant log output

No response

[GalaxiaGuy]

On Android that appears to be behaving "correctly" as it maps to VerticalScrollBarEnabled.

To make the scrollbars truly visible all the time requires ScrollBarFadingEnabled to be false in the Android code. Changing the behavior of ScrollBarVisibility.Always would probably be considered a breaking change (despite its confusing name).

[jfversluis]

@GalaxiaGuy you did some digging on this? Could you maybe add some links to the code for this?

My initial reaction was: hm, yeah that's how some platforms work. Like on iOS I don't think you can even get the scrollbars to stay visible or it's highly discouraged by Apple at least. But on Android it seems like we could, but maybe we're mapping it to the wrong property?

Or, the bug might be here that the naming is not really clear about what it actually does. As it seems for Android where we map it to it seems to be something that enables and disables scrolling regardless of content is overflowing or not rather than showing or hiding the actual scrollbars.

It might be a breaking change, but that doesn't mean that we need to keep a potential bug alive because of that 😄

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[PrestigiousF]

I'm not sure what is being requested by the bot... Just giving and update - I'm not sure how to implement the suggestion by @GalaxiaGuy , as it's not a option in Xaml, I'm fairly new to MAUI.

[GalaxiaGuy]

@jfversluis My research was mainly this stackoverflow post:

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/5702502/how-to-always-show-scrollbar

It boils down to disabling the fade using setScrollbarFadingEnabled(false) or setScrollBarFadeDuration(0) (while also doing the existing thing of enabling them even if the content doesn't scroll).

@PrestigiousF This functionality is only available in the native Android code, and some work would be need to expose it. There is a pretty in depth guide here:

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/maui/user-interface/handlers/customize?view=net-maui-7.0

Although based on the comments by @jfversluis the current behavior of Always may be changed to anyway.